the ‘natural birth’ debate at A Little Pregnant

[originally posted at my old blog on 16 August 2008]

This admittedly lengthy post requires some back-story in its first few paragraphs because I’m writing in response to a conversation at a particular blog I read. But my point (once I manage to get to it …) is about a brand of nastiness that happens all over the place: the snarky, holier-than-thou, better-informed-than-thou attitudes that so many mothers direct toward mothers whose birthing choices diverge from their own. You know: the stereotypical unmedicated homebirther passing cruel little judgments upon women who loved their epidurals or had cesarean sections; the stereotypical epidural-loving woman passing cruel little judgments on women she views as ‘playing the martyr’ by declining pain medication; the list goes on and on. Perhaps we ought to remember that pregnancies, labors, and births are all deeply personal and individual? Just maybe?

Julie, of A Little Pregnant, is a funny, smart, thoughtful, and utterly engaging writer. I regularly read her blog because it’s so well-written and also because her experiences in reproduction have been so completely different from mine. As I work toward supporting diverse labors and laboring women, I think it’s important to listen to the stories of women who have had long-term struggles with (in)fertility, who have all-too-well-founded fears about the safety of the babies they are trying so hard to bring alive into the world, who have experienced so many interventions just trying to get pregnant that their relationships with doctors, medical science, modesty, pregnancy, etc., etc. are necessarily different from mine. I am exceedingly grateful to Julie for the very personal experiences and insight which she shares so publicly.

I usually don’t comment on her blog, whose comments serve primarily as a community for people dealing with infertility (and, occasionally, for embittered arguments involving people who unfortunately make breastfeeding advocates and ‘natural birth’ folks look like dreadful people). I’m not relevant to that conversation. I don’t have any right to suggest anything to anyone there; I don’t know Julie or the commenters personally; I haven’t experienced the challenges they’ve experienced.

Recent discussion there has left me with something to say, though, so I’ve decided to post my musings here.

In this post, Julie responds to this earlier comment–

I’ve had three wonderful all natural vaginal births with midwives and the experiences were transcendant. It is not something I would have given up because of a remote statistical risk that something even more remote would happen. And I certainly would not have given it up because I was being pressured by authoritarian doctors who are clearly practicing CYA [cover your ass] medicine.

You’re a smart cookie, Julie, so stop drinking the Koolaid.

–with a lot of anger over the patronizing tone of that last line and the implication that the commenter knows more about Julie’s situation than she herself does (being probably deluded by the medical establishment, being unable to choose appropriate care providers). Literally hundreds of commenters responded with something along the lines of “Fuck her!” Now, I suspect that the commenter meant extremely well, but also that she totally doesn’t grasp the blogger’s fundamentally different–and, as with any pregnancy and birth, individual–situation. I feel badly for this well-meaning commenter who got such ire cast at her, even though I totally agree that the comment is patronizing and wrong-headed. (Also, I’m sorry, but I still can’t figure out what “a remote statistical risk that something even more remote would happen” could possibly mean. “More remote” than what? Oh well.)

But some of the follow-up commenters say things that really bother me, largely because they are at least as judgmental and generalizing and patronizing as what the original problematic comment says. For example, one comment here reads:

You know, I have 2 children. I gave not one hoot about how the experience of bringing them into the world would be for ME – I just wanted the BABY to be HEALTHY.
“Magical”, “Transcendent” “Beautiful”? How fucking self-indulgent can other women get?
I mean seriously.

This comment, and many like it (far beyond the context of A Little Pregnant or even the internet), assumes that viewing birth as a potentially good experience is inherently selfish. It reinforces the extraordinarily cruel habit people have of saying, to a woman struggling to accept a disappointing or traumatic birth experience (or coping with postpartum depression and/or postraumatic stress disorder), “Why be upset? You have a healthy baby, and that’s all that really matters, right?” It seems to dismiss the (human, sentient, feeling, spiritual) birthing woman as an important part of childbirth.

The comment also imagines that an interest in “how the experience of bringing [a baby] into the world would be for [the birthing woman]” is necessarily opposed to or mutually exclusive from a primary interest in “the BABY [being] HEALTHY.” The vast, vast, VAST majority of women who hope to experience a personally meaningful and beautiful unmedicated birth are far more committed to the health and safety of their babies and themselves than to any particular birth plan. As far as I can tell, most of these women have actually researched their options (just as Julie has been doing) and decided that, in their particular circumstances, this birth plan is the safest for themselves and their babies. Having chosen the safest-seeming option, many women do then think about how to make their c-sections or vaginal births (medicated or unmedicated) as meaningful and beautiful as possible–how best to enjoy meeting their precious babies. That’s not “self-indulgent”; that’s a way of cherishing one’s family and respecting oneself.

Many such comments also seem to imagine that, while women who prefer unmedicated vaginal births are merely “out for the experience,” women choosing epidural pain relief in hopes of a more pleasant birth are somehow exempt from this criticism (that it is selfish and “fucking self-indulgent” to want an enjoyable birth experience). But, in general, these choices spring from a single impulse: to make the birth experience as pleasant as possible, according to an individual woman’s definition of “pleasant,” whether that primarily means “pain-free,” “empowering,” “intense,” “calm,” or whatever (all ranking AFTER, of course, “safe for mother and baby”). And it is wise and good to seek the birth that will be safest given your own medical situation and most satisfying given your own personality and history.

It is, correspondingly, inane and unkind to judge each other’s experiences from afar, thinking to ourselves, “Tut tut; I would have made such better decisions in her place …” Birth choices are incredibly complex and important; let’s not pretend childbirth is one-size-fits-all.

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7 Comments

  1. Beth
    Posted 28 January 2011 at 1:38 PM | Permalink

    I know this is an old post, but I’d never seen it, and I wanted to say THANK YOU. I work really, really hard as a doula (and right now as a very pregnant woman) to maintain the attitude that each individual knows what birth is appropriate for her, and it is no one’s place to judge that. You’ve expressed this perspective really well, and I appreciate it. Makes me feel like I’m not so alone. :)

  2. Posted 28 January 2011 at 2:54 PM | Permalink

    Like Beth, I hadn’t seen this before… and I just want to give you a big HELL YES on all of this!

  3. Molly
    Posted 28 January 2011 at 5:37 PM | Permalink

    Thanks, peeps.

  4. Allison
    Posted 28 January 2011 at 6:52 PM | Permalink

    I’m a NICU nurse and working on becoming pregnant with my incredibly loving and wonderful soon-to-be-wife and our baby daddy. My patients, babies, are the sickest, smallest kids in the province when they are born. Their parents have ultra-traumatic birth experiences, coupled with heart wrenching fear that your baby will die, be in pain, separation after birth because their tiny, fragile infant is hooked to monitors and IVs and ventilators to keep them alive (we advocate skin-to-skin, but it can only be done when the baby’s skin doesn’t explode or flake off when you touch them, and when they can tolerate the 2′ move to mom’s skin), etc etc etc. Learning to parent when your baby’s eyes are still fused shut and they barely weigh a pound is different than if you have a full on screaming newborn who eats like a vacuum…

    So I get pretty pissy when people go off about the holier-than-though birth experience, because you never know about someone’s life experience unless you ask them. I’m also always interested to know what the woman who replied about the remoteness of risk if her baby WAS that remote risk and DID die.

    There was a really neat article in a recent publication of Canadian Nurse about birthing centres in remote Aboriginal communities where women were flown out at 34 weeks to big cities like Toronto to give birth. It was on the success of the program and the choice that the community as a whole made and accept the risks of continuous low-intervention births, because community was more important than the life of the individual. The mortality rate is on par with the national average. If I can find it, I will send you the link!

    And have you ever read the book, “The Red Tent” by Anita Diamante? I’m re-reading it with new eyes and it’s fascinating.

    • Molly
      Posted 31 January 2011 at 8:48 PM | Permalink

      I read The Red Tent a year or two ago and enjoyed it a lot. I didn’t take notes on it or write a review, though, so I can’t be much more specific than that … Oh well; someday I can read it again and go oh yeah; I remember this!

      Best of luck building your family and also helping your tiny patients and their parents. You must see a great deal of pain at work.

  5. Linnette
    Posted 1 February 2011 at 2:39 PM | Permalink

    Just chiming in with a big ‘ol hell yes to this! Nothing aggravates me more than seeing other people’s choices criticized or their experiences dismissed because they differ.

    I also hate the straw-(wo)men, the pigeon-holes, and the generalizations.

    Obviously this is prevalent in many different discussions, but birth is definitely one that can bring out the worst. I always want to shout, IT’S ABOUT CHOICE. It’s not about mine is better than yours, or you shouldn’t or why didn’t you. People make their choices for many different reasons and their experiences should be respected for being their own.

  6. Erin
    Posted 2 February 2011 at 10:52 AM | Permalink

    Great response, Molly! I read that post, too. I love A Little Pregnant, and I understand people’s annoyance at that commenter – especially given Julie’s history and the terrifying and life-threatening birth she had first time around. One of the most important things about Julie’s site for me is that it has opened my eyes to the struggles of infertile women/couples; I think it’s a must-read for any woman interested in birth issues, because Julie and her (mostly) wonderful readers have taught me that infertility issues are feminist issues. I used to have “views” about reproductive technology, and it turned out that those views were based on profound ignorance. So Julie’s site is for me a place where women can listen to each other and learn compassion for each other. Which is one reason why that particular conversation was so painful for me. I had a similar experience a couple of months ago on Moxie’s site, where Moxie recommended that a struggling mother of twins consider supplementing in order to help get more rest at night. The BF moms were very supportive and no one tried to shame the mother about this advice, but a TON of formula feeding parents wrote in to say basically MY GOD who cares about BF? Formula isn’t poison! It doesn’t matter how you feed your baby! I didn’t respond to them, because I didn’t want to start a fight about BF and derail the point of the post, which was to help this woman. Moxie’s site is remarkably free of that kind of talk, and though it’s a diverse community, it’s respectful usually.

    My own personal pet peeve is how in the mainstream media whenever “mommy wars” or “judgmental parents” are brought up, the examples are *almost always* breastfeeding, co-sleeping, cloth-diapering, natural childbirthing women, as these are the only ones guilty of shaming or judging. (that’s one of the reasons why I don’t like the “Mompetition” website – it claims to make fun of all rigid parenting styles/judgmental moms, but the examples are almost all drawn from alternative views/methods.)

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